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The Blues have moved into Super Rugby's Top 6 with a bonus point 40-19 takedown of the Western Force at Eden Park.
The defending champions led 12-7 at halftime before scoring four tries in the second stanza to extend their advantage.
Coach Vern Cotter says his side are starting to believe they can overcome a sluggish start to their title defence.
Piney caught up with Blues hooker Kurt Eklund after their hard-fought win.
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